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	<title>Comments on: Is there to be a run on the banks&#8230;..?</title>
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		<title>By: Ken MacIntyre</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2008/10/theres-a-run-on-the-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken MacIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this quote in Edward Chancellor&#039;s 1999 book &#039;Devil Take The Hindmost - a history of financial speculation&#039; which seems 

highly apposite to today&#039;s crisis. Writing at the time of the collapse of the South Sea Company, James Milner MP said;

I owne I thought 

they would carry on their cheat somewhat longer. I said indeed that ruin must soon come upon us, but I own it came two months sooner than I 

expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this quote in Edward Chancellor&#8217;s 1999 book &#8216;Devil Take The Hindmost &#8211; a history of financial speculation&#8217; which seems </p>
<p>highly apposite to today&#8217;s crisis. Writing at the time of the collapse of the South Sea Company, James Milner MP said;</p>
<p>I owne I thought </p>
<p>they would carry on their cheat somewhat longer. I said indeed that ruin must soon come upon us, but I own it came two months sooner than I </p>
<p>expected.</p>
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		<title>By: geoff tily</title>
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		<dc:creator>geoff tily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann you are very right about &#039;economic nationalism&#039;.

In the 1930s, those that opposed the substantial reform of the financial 

system that was taking place under Keynes and Roosevelt restorted to the same sort of rhetoric. 

Lionel Robbins of the LSE was at the front 

line of the attack:

&quot;… [I]t is clear … that control of local policy should be removed as far as possible from the influence of local 

governments; that, whatever their ultimate destiny, the different reserve systems should cease to be the instruments of monetary nationalism. The 

banking policy of the twenties, which sought to remove the central banks from the interferences of governments, was right. The banking policy of 

the thirties, which has been to bring them once more under government control, is wrong. The immediate objective of policy, therefore, must be to 

reverse this tendency. In a world free from monetary nationalism, the solution of the remaining problems of banking policy should not present 

insurmountable difficulties.&quot; 

(Economic Planning and International Order, 1937, London: Macmillan, pp. 304-5)


Fortunatley the 

authorities chose to ignore him. And, as you regularly remind us, finance was set as servant to the world from the 1930s to the early 1970s. A 

golden age of stability and prosperity followed. Tragically, his views - or those that followed in his theoretical tradition - were not denied 

forever. 

Richard Lambert of the CBI raised the same spectre of monetary nationalism on the BBC&#039;s &#039;Question Time&#039; last thursday (in 

response to a question about Irish deposit insurance). He also aired the fallacy that economic nationalism was responsible for the great 

depression. This is to stand the facts on their head, and make the cure the culprit. Financial liberalisation was responsible for the great 

depression. It was only when governments took their economies off the gold standard and started to take finance out of private hands that the world 

economy began to recover. If that is economic nationalism then so be it. But the phrase is not helpful and its use sinister, perhaps seeking an 

association with the actions of totalitatrian economies. 

We deserve a better level of argument than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann you are very right about &#8216;economic nationalism&#8217;.</p>
<p>In the 1930s, those that opposed the substantial reform of the financial </p>
<p>system that was taking place under Keynes and Roosevelt restorted to the same sort of rhetoric. </p>
<p>Lionel Robbins of the LSE was at the front </p>
<p>line of the attack:</p>
<p>&#8220;… [I]t is clear … that control of local policy should be removed as far as possible from the influence of local </p>
<p>governments; that, whatever their ultimate destiny, the different reserve systems should cease to be the instruments of monetary nationalism. The </p>
<p>banking policy of the twenties, which sought to remove the central banks from the interferences of governments, was right. The banking policy of </p>
<p>the thirties, which has been to bring them once more under government control, is wrong. The immediate objective of policy, therefore, must be to </p>
<p>reverse this tendency. In a world free from monetary nationalism, the solution of the remaining problems of banking policy should not present </p>
<p>insurmountable difficulties.&#8221; </p>
<p>(Economic Planning and International Order, 1937, London: Macmillan, pp. 304-5)</p>
<p>Fortunatley the </p>
<p>authorities chose to ignore him. And, as you regularly remind us, finance was set as servant to the world from the 1930s to the early 1970s. A </p>
<p>golden age of stability and prosperity followed. Tragically, his views &#8211; or those that followed in his theoretical tradition &#8211; were not denied </p>
<p>forever. </p>
<p>Richard Lambert of the CBI raised the same spectre of monetary nationalism on the BBC&#8217;s &#8216;Question Time&#8217; last thursday (in </p>
<p>response to a question about Irish deposit insurance). He also aired the fallacy that economic nationalism was responsible for the great </p>
<p>depression. This is to stand the facts on their head, and make the cure the culprit. Financial liberalisation was responsible for the great </p>
<p>depression. It was only when governments took their economies off the gold standard and started to take finance out of private hands that the world </p>
<p>economy began to recover. If that is economic nationalism then so be it. But the phrase is not helpful and its use sinister, perhaps seeking an </p>
<p>association with the actions of totalitatrian economies. </p>
<p>We deserve a better level of argument than this.</p>
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