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	<title>Comments on: More on not printing money &#8211; from Prof. Chick</title>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful post and well written. Please write more on this 

if you have time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful post and well written. Please write more on this </p>
<p>if you have time.</p>
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		<title>By: Protetion</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Protetion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never given this a try, but I think it&#039;s about time I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never given this a try, but I think it&#8217;s about time I do.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Rasjid</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Rasjid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reply to Robert Munro is as a &quot;breath of fresh air&quot; - not talking  thin air.

Ann&#039;s reply to Rasjid: I can&#039;t (yet) fault 

your answer as it seems logical. Being too long exposed to Antal E. Fekete, part of my mind just think that... debt is evil...and wouldn&#039;t accept 

any proposition involving issuing massive new debts/evil to attack &quot;The Destruction&quot; from destructions of old debts/evil. 

Hopefully the 

running BoE people have PhD Economics and know that &quot;Dynamics of Perpetual Motion&quot; has been discredited - Rasjid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reply to Robert Munro is as a &#8220;breath of fresh air&#8221; &#8211; not talking  thin air.</p>
<p>Ann&#8217;s reply to Rasjid: I can&#8217;t (yet) fault </p>
<p>your answer as it seems logical. Being too long exposed to Antal E. Fekete, part of my mind just think that&#8230; debt is evil&#8230;and wouldn&#8217;t accept </p>
<p>any proposition involving issuing massive new debts/evil to attack &#8220;The Destruction&#8221; from destructions of old debts/evil. </p>
<p>Hopefully the </p>
<p>running BoE people have PhD Economics and know that &#8220;Dynamics of Perpetual Motion&#8221; has been discredited &#8211; Rasjid.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Pettifor</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Pettifor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Munro....where will the BoE get the money? Where the banks get it from every day...&#039;our of thin air

&#039;....Economists are whingeing about the BoE &#039;printing money&#039;...but banks do it every day...and no, they don&#039;t use printers...they simply punch 

numbers into an electronic ledger, add a &#039;price&#039; - the rate of interest....and then drain your bank account to get repaid. That&#039;s the magic of 

banking...and why aren&#039;t we all bankers?

The BoE will do the same thing, but instead of draining any institution&#039;s bank account, including 

the government&#039;s bank account, they put the assets they have purchased on their balance sheet. One day they may sell them...but for now, those 

assets (bonds) are out of the market place, and helping to increase the price of government bonds. 

 As the price of a bond (say £1,000) 

rises (to say £2,000) the fixed rate of interest on the original bond (say 3%) falls relative to the total price - ie the &#039;yield&#039; on the bond 

falls....this has an impact on the yields of all bonds, in particular corporate bonds..used by companies to raise cash....Hope this helps..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Munro&#8230;.where will the BoE get the money? Where the banks get it from every day&#8230;&#8217;our of thin air</p>
<p>&#8216;&#8230;.Economists are whingeing about the BoE &#8216;printing money&#8217;&#8230;but banks do it every day&#8230;and no, they don&#8217;t use printers&#8230;they simply punch </p>
<p>numbers into an electronic ledger, add a &#8216;price&#8217; &#8211; the rate of interest&#8230;.and then drain your bank account to get repaid. That&#8217;s the magic of </p>
<p>banking&#8230;and why aren&#8217;t we all bankers?</p>
<p>The BoE will do the same thing, but instead of draining any institution&#8217;s bank account, including </p>
<p>the government&#8217;s bank account, they put the assets they have purchased on their balance sheet. One day they may sell them&#8230;but for now, those </p>
<p>assets (bonds) are out of the market place, and helping to increase the price of government bonds. </p>
<p> As the price of a bond (say £1,000) </p>
<p>rises (to say £2,000) the fixed rate of interest on the original bond (say 3%) falls relative to the total price &#8211; ie the &#8216;yield&#8217; on the bond </p>
<p>falls&#8230;.this has an impact on the yields of all bonds, in particular corporate bonds..used by companies to raise cash&#8230;.Hope this helps..</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Pettifor</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Pettifor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rasjid, you are right. QE is no more printing money, than banks issuing credit every day are &#039;printing money&#039;. 

The point about the BoE taking government bonds out of the market, and on to its balance sheet, is that that will increase the price of the bonds 

and lower the yield....And for a government planning to issue more bonds, that is very helpful. Because it reduces the cost to the budget 

ultimately of those bonds....But more importantly, it reduces the borrowing costs of businesses going bust....if they can be kept alive, then there 

is less chance of unemployment and the costs of unemployment benefits. i.e. welfare....Cutting welfare as well as borrowing costs, helps reduce the 

budget deficit....hey presto. Its been done before (i.e. 1930s) and it can be done again...Its not rocket science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasjid, you are right. QE is no more printing money, than banks issuing credit every day are &#8216;printing money&#8217;. </p>
<p>The point about the BoE taking government bonds out of the market, and on to its balance sheet, is that that will increase the price of the bonds </p>
<p>and lower the yield&#8230;.And for a government planning to issue more bonds, that is very helpful. Because it reduces the cost to the budget </p>
<p>ultimately of those bonds&#8230;.But more importantly, it reduces the borrowing costs of businesses going bust&#8230;.if they can be kept alive, then there </p>
<p>is less chance of unemployment and the costs of unemployment benefits. i.e. welfare&#8230;.Cutting welfare as well as borrowing costs, helps reduce the </p>
<p>budget deficit&#8230;.hey presto. Its been done before (i.e. 1930s) and it can be done again&#8230;Its not rocket science.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert (Jamie) Munro</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert (Jamie) Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where will the BoE get the £75 billion which it will use to buy back bonds, if not by &quot;printing&quot; (presumably electronic) money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where will the BoE get the £75 billion which it will use to buy back bonds, if not by &#8220;printing&#8221; (presumably electronic) money?</p>
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		<title>By: C. Rasjid</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-798</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Rasjid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There still seems to be a misunderstanding about QE. 
1) QE IS &quot;printing money&quot; (though it may not be &quot;about&quot; printing money) - 

which nowadays is done through computer entries in bank&#039;s credit acounts. The central banks buy back government bonds from holders and credit 

their bank accounts with new money. 
2) QE creates money out of &quot;thin air&quot; - as the effort required is as laborious as making keyboard entries.



Ann mentions QE as a tool to reduce interest rates to prevent insolvencies from spiralling out of control . But how is the Obama 

administration going to do QE and running a record budget deficit at the same time - which requires new treasury bill issues to fund it. 

It 

may be the same with the UK if they go on budget deficit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There still seems to be a misunderstanding about QE.<br />
1) QE IS &#8220;printing money&#8221; (though it may not be &#8220;about&#8221; printing money) &#8211; </p>
<p>which nowadays is done through computer entries in bank&#8217;s credit acounts. The central banks buy back government bonds from holders and credit </p>
<p>their bank accounts with new money.<br />
2) QE creates money out of &#8220;thin air&#8221; &#8211; as the effort required is as laborious as making keyboard entries.</p>
<p>Ann mentions QE as a tool to reduce interest rates to prevent insolvencies from spiralling out of control . But how is the Obama </p>
<p>administration going to do QE and running a record budget deficit at the same time &#8211; which requires new treasury bill issues to fund it. </p>
<p>It </p>
<p>may be the same with the UK if they go on budget deficit.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/03/more-on-not-printing-money-from-prof-chick/comment-page-1/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ann,
I am a bit confused. 
Has or is  the B of E about to print 75 billion pounds or is it going to use QE (I am still not 

clear on that one) to make it look like there are 75 billion pounds more in the British economy.
I think I need to read something along the 

lines of QE , Keynesian economics, derivative etc for dummies so that I can get a better handle on the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ann,<br />
I am a bit confused.<br />
Has or is  the B of E about to print 75 billion pounds or is it going to use QE (I am still not </p>
<p>clear on that one) to make it look like there are 75 billion pounds more in the British economy.<br />
I think I need to read something along the </p>
<p>lines of QE , Keynesian economics, derivative etc for dummies so that I can get a better handle on the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr L Brownstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr L Brownstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin, I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t understand your comment. 

&quot;Quantitative easing&quot; was used in Japan as part of the Bank of Japan&#039;s 

five-year experiment, beginning in March 2001, to create growth or inflation.  It failed to induce any inflation at all, as the Japanese continued 

to pay down their debts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin, I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t understand your comment. </p>
<p>&#8220;Quantitative easing&#8221; was used in Japan as part of the Bank of Japan&#8217;s </p>
<p>five-year experiment, beginning in March 2001, to create growth or inflation.  It failed to induce any inflation at all, as the Japanese continued </p>
<p>to pay down their debts.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too true. That&#039;s why many of us are campaigning to nationalise the money system, i.e. for 

legislation to prohibit banks from creating new money (as debt), and for the state to take exclusive responsibility for issuing money. The banks 

should be limited to taking deposits and making loans based on those deposits (with strict liquidity ratios).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true. That&#8217;s why many of us are campaigning to nationalise the money system, i.e. for </p>
<p>legislation to prohibit banks from creating new money (as debt), and for the state to take exclusive responsibility for issuing money. The banks </p>
<p>should be limited to taking deposits and making loans based on those deposits (with strict liquidity ratios).</p>
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