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		<title>By: Cory Voigt</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Voigt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re looking for someone to participate in a debate at the Cape Town Book Fair on Alex perry&#039;s FALLING OFF 

THE EDGE , see 
http://www.panmacmillan.com/titles/displayPage.asp?PageTitle=Individual%20Title&amp;BookID=407523
Intersted? email me at 

coryvoigt@iafrica.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re looking for someone to participate in a debate at the Cape Town Book Fair on Alex perry&#8217;s FALLING OFF </p>
<p>THE EDGE , see<br />
<a href="http://www.panmacmillan.com/titles/displayPage.asp?PageTitle=Individual%20Title&#038;BookID=407523" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.panmacmillan.com/titles/displayPage.asp?PageTitle=Individual_20Title_038_BookID=407523&amp;referer=');">http://www.panmacmillan.com/titles/displayPage.asp?PageTitle=Individual%20Title&#038;BookID=407523</a><br />
Intersted? email me at </p>
<p><a href="mailto:coryvoigt@iafrica.com">coryvoigt@iafrica.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 03:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its the same reluctance to regulate and &#039;small government&#039; mantra that allows this to happen as with the GFC. These companies cant 

make a profit even without a Carbon imposte. A Green New Deal would have to envisage a fast train network for  Europe with minimum human 

requirements of space etc. specified. BA&#039;s own free market ethos  should allow them to fail and maybe then the money would be available for humane 

sustainable transport options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the same reluctance to regulate and &#8216;small government&#8217; mantra that allows this to happen as with the GFC. These companies cant </p>
<p>make a profit even without a Carbon imposte. A Green New Deal would have to envisage a fast train network for  Europe with minimum human </p>
<p>requirements of space etc. specified. BA&#8217;s own free market ethos  should allow them to fail and maybe then the money would be available for humane </p>
<p>sustainable transport options.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same question is being asked in industry after industry.

Why are we tolerating being treated 

badly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same question is being asked in industry after industry.</p>
<p>Why are we tolerating being treated </p>
<p>badly?</p>
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		<title>By: the.Duke.of.URL</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>the.Duke.of.URL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Pratley should have put &quot;collective wisdom of the marketplace&quot; in quotes, as there is no 

such thing.

larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Pratley should have put &#8220;collective wisdom of the marketplace&#8221; in quotes, as there is no </p>
<p>such thing.</p>
<p>larry</p>
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		<title>By: the.Duke.of.URL</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>the.Duke.of.URL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, you are so right. Not only is what you said the case, so is the nauseatingly obsequious 

attention you receive if you travel first class or at any rate above tourist. On &quot;British Rail&quot;, not only can you get Earl Grey tea, you can have 

it served with lemon slices in first class. And the seats don&#039;t hurt your back. I remember the days when BA was a decent airline. Now, it can get 

stuffed as far as I am concerned. The sooner they go out of business, the better.

larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, you are so right. Not only is what you said the case, so is the nauseatingly obsequious </p>
<p>attention you receive if you travel first class or at any rate above tourist. On &#8220;British Rail&#8221;, not only can you get Earl Grey tea, you can have </p>
<p>it served with lemon slices in first class. And the seats don&#8217;t hurt your back. I remember the days when BA was a decent airline. Now, it can get </p>
<p>stuffed as far as I am concerned. The sooner they go out of business, the better.</p>
<p>larry</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As 6&#039;5&quot; tall, non-banker I can attest to the horrific state of budget airline seating on all airlines. My knees are pressed into the 

seat in front, my feet suspended inches from the ground. When the passenger in front moves I am in agony. If they try to put their seat back, they 

can&#039;t. 

In a recent flight on United Airlines, I asked an attendant if I could move to one of their &quot;premium economy&quot; seat after take-off 

and I was told NO, unless I pay the upgrade. 3/4 of the Premium seats were empty. 

I measure the distance between my seat edge and the back 

of the seat in front: It was the same as the height of a 500ml bottle of Coca Cola.

It is one reason I liken the modern flying experience to 

being boxed in a veal crate.

There was a time, less than 10 years ago, when arriving at the airport 3 hours before departure and requesting 

an exit seat would ensure a pleasant trip. I remember being asked if I was medically fit and able to assist in an emergency - my only &quot;payment&quot; for 

the relief of an exit seat. 

Not any more: the only consideration for that seating now is whether I am willing to pay. 

I refuse. Why 

should I have to PAY in order NOT TO risk having a Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT)? 

A recent legal victory in Canada made in illegal for 

carriers to charge double seating for obese passengers.

I don&#039;t have a choice being tall. It is the way my genes made me.

If the 

airlines forced disabled, people of colour, or homosexual people to pay more for their seating, there would be an out cry.

But because I am 

tall, I somehow have a &quot;choice&quot; between relative comfort or a potentially life threatening condition.

I did not choose to be tall, so why do 

airlines discriminate against me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As 6&#8217;5&#8243; tall, non-banker I can attest to the horrific state of budget airline seating on all airlines. My knees are pressed into the </p>
<p>seat in front, my feet suspended inches from the ground. When the passenger in front moves I am in agony. If they try to put their seat back, they </p>
<p>can&#8217;t. </p>
<p>In a recent flight on United Airlines, I asked an attendant if I could move to one of their &#8220;premium economy&#8221; seat after take-off </p>
<p>and I was told NO, unless I pay the upgrade. 3/4 of the Premium seats were empty. </p>
<p>I measure the distance between my seat edge and the back </p>
<p>of the seat in front: It was the same as the height of a 500ml bottle of Coca Cola.</p>
<p>It is one reason I liken the modern flying experience to </p>
<p>being boxed in a veal crate.</p>
<p>There was a time, less than 10 years ago, when arriving at the airport 3 hours before departure and requesting </p>
<p>an exit seat would ensure a pleasant trip. I remember being asked if I was medically fit and able to assist in an emergency &#8211; my only &#8220;payment&#8221; for </p>
<p>the relief of an exit seat. </p>
<p>Not any more: the only consideration for that seating now is whether I am willing to pay. </p>
<p>I refuse. Why </p>
<p>should I have to PAY in order NOT TO risk having a Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT)? </p>
<p>A recent legal victory in Canada made in illegal for </p>
<p>carriers to charge double seating for obese passengers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a choice being tall. It is the way my genes made me.</p>
<p>If the </p>
<p>airlines forced disabled, people of colour, or homosexual people to pay more for their seating, there would be an out cry.</p>
<p>But because I am </p>
<p>tall, I somehow have a &#8220;choice&#8221; between relative comfort or a potentially life threatening condition.</p>
<p>I did not choose to be tall, so why do </p>
<p>airlines discriminate against me?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Ann-I am a QANTAS CAptain have have watched with dismay at the slow decline in real service for economy passengers-the full 

service carriers really want you off with the so called &quot;Low Cost&quot; Carriers-Airlines provide a vital public good-they are not the playthings of the 

market.
Most US carriers lurch from one crisis to another-increasingly there is a strong case for good national carriers to be owned by 

Governments-we had a beauty once called TAA-merged into QANTAS to provide the cash flow to make the float successful-few International Carriers 

make any money.
Thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Ann-I am a QANTAS CAptain have have watched with dismay at the slow decline in real service for economy passengers-the full </p>
<p>service carriers really want you off with the so called &#8220;Low Cost&#8221; Carriers-Airlines provide a vital public good-they are not the playthings of the </p>
<p>market.<br />
Most US carriers lurch from one crisis to another-increasingly there is a strong case for good national carriers to be owned by </p>
<p>Governments-we had a beauty once called TAA-merged into QANTAS to provide the cash flow to make the float successful-few International Carriers </p>
<p>make any money.<br />
Thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: Ganry74</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/05/on-travel-british-airways-and-bankers/comment-page-1/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganry74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customs Service and other agencies to prevent illegal shipments from coming into the country. ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customs Service and other agencies to prevent illegal shipments from coming into the country. ,</p>
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