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	<title>Comments on: Turkeys voting for Christmas</title>
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		<title>By: the.Duke.of.URL</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/07/turkeys-voting-for-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>the.Duke.of.URL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, you and Keegan are not alone. Since no one in power seems to want to read Keynes or even Chick (which is unfortunate), I would 

recommend the following reading list for them to digest over the summer break - Galbraith’s New Industrial State (4th edition with Forward by James 

K., his son) followed by Economics and the Public Purpose followed by James K. Galbraith’s The Predator State.  If they feel up to it, perhaps they 

might have a look at Galbraith’s The Affluent Society, the first of the trilogy. 

Looking at Glover’s chart, one despairs.  I feel like I 

did before the second and third Thatcher elections – a sense of impending doom.  Living through Thatcherism was like being tortured, over an 

extended period a little bit at a time until the nervous system began to rebel.

I am meeting my LibDem MP this Friday - he is giving me 10 

minutes of his time. Thank you for your &quot;spiritual&quot; support with this timely piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, you and Keegan are not alone. Since no one in power seems to want to read Keynes or even Chick (which is unfortunate), I would </p>
<p>recommend the following reading list for them to digest over the summer break &#8211; Galbraith’s New Industrial State (4th edition with Forward by James </p>
<p>K., his son) followed by Economics and the Public Purpose followed by James K. Galbraith’s The Predator State.  If they feel up to it, perhaps they </p>
<p>might have a look at Galbraith’s The Affluent Society, the first of the trilogy. </p>
<p>Looking at Glover’s chart, one despairs.  I feel like I </p>
<p>did before the second and third Thatcher elections – a sense of impending doom.  Living through Thatcherism was like being tortured, over an </p>
<p>extended period a little bit at a time until the nervous system began to rebel.</p>
<p>I am meeting my LibDem MP this Friday &#8211; he is giving me 10 </p>
<p>minutes of his time. Thank you for your &#8220;spiritual&#8221; support with this timely piece.</p>
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		<title>By: brian t</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/07/turkeys-voting-for-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>brian t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Look after the unemployment, and the Budget will look after itself.&quot; 

That may have sounded good in the industrial 

economy of the first half of the last century, but what about now, in this post-industrial globalised economy? If you build industries with the aim 

of reducing unemployment, the additional costs put them at a competitive disadvantage w.r.t. economies that make no such concessions, such as 

China. 

I expect that the world will become &quot;flat&quot; eventually - in the economic sense, not just in Friedman&#039;s information sense - with a 

single world government. I&#039;m not looking forward to it, if I live to see it, but maybe then we can see an end to economic imbalances between 

countries, and look to build a truly sustainable world economy, without exploitation of some countries by others. However, I suspect that that 

would also highlight the effects of overpopulation in sustaining the current economic imbalances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look after the unemployment, and the Budget will look after itself.&#8221; </p>
<p>That may have sounded good in the industrial </p>
<p>economy of the first half of the last century, but what about now, in this post-industrial globalised economy? If you build industries with the aim </p>
<p>of reducing unemployment, the additional costs put them at a competitive disadvantage w.r.t. economies that make no such concessions, such as </p>
<p>China. </p>
<p>I expect that the world will become &#8220;flat&#8221; eventually &#8211; in the economic sense, not just in Friedman&#8217;s information sense &#8211; with a </p>
<p>single world government. I&#8217;m not looking forward to it, if I live to see it, but maybe then we can see an end to economic imbalances between </p>
<p>countries, and look to build a truly sustainable world economy, without exploitation of some countries by others. However, I suspect that that </p>
<p>would also highlight the effects of overpopulation in sustaining the current economic imbalances.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian P. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/07/turkeys-voting-for-christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian P. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find most disturbing about all the remedies for this current crisis is that they are being proposed, in the main, by the very 

people who got us into the mess in the first place. Their policies allowed the markets to lend recklessly in pursuit of immorally large financial 

gains for themselves, and now the very same people are expecting us to believe that they have OUR best interests at heart. The saddest part of this 

is that the vast majority of people believe them! Those at the bottom of the pile have very little impact in the discussion, mainly because they do 

not understand what is going on (nor do they even try because they are totally immersed in keeping their heads above water), whilst those further 

up the financial ladder are so intent on preserving their own position that they don&#039;t want to believe it could all go wrong. It really does need 

people like Ann to keep on prodding away until the greater mass of the population realises what is happening and revolts against the perceived 

wisdom of the financial establishment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find most disturbing about all the remedies for this current crisis is that they are being proposed, in the main, by the very </p>
<p>people who got us into the mess in the first place. Their policies allowed the markets to lend recklessly in pursuit of immorally large financial </p>
<p>gains for themselves, and now the very same people are expecting us to believe that they have OUR best interests at heart. The saddest part of this </p>
<p>is that the vast majority of people believe them! Those at the bottom of the pile have very little impact in the discussion, mainly because they do </p>
<p>not understand what is going on (nor do they even try because they are totally immersed in keeping their heads above water), whilst those further </p>
<p>up the financial ladder are so intent on preserving their own position that they don&#8217;t want to believe it could all go wrong. It really does need </p>
<p>people like Ann to keep on prodding away until the greater mass of the population realises what is happening and revolts against the perceived </p>
<p>wisdom of the financial establishment!</p>
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