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	<title>Comments on: Bailed-out banks should fund the Green New Deal</title>
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		<title>By: ann</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/08/bailed-out-banks-should-fund-the-green-new-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-1242</link>
		<dc:creator>ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Brian and Martin for these comments...Martin, I am not sure that there would be public support for 

government to be given the power.....I have worked in Africa, and there I struggle to persuade people that central banks should not be independent 

of government, but instead should be accountable to elected governments......governments are deeply mistrusted.....and while you are right, the 

bankers have been making a profit, that&#039;s because we have allowed them to....Regulate them; break them up; and persuade the BoE to once again 

adopt the principles and practice of Keynes&#039; liquidity preference theory - which he used to help the BoE issue a range of bonds and thereby 

determine all rates of interest - for short and long loans, safe and risky loans...Banks will then once again become staid, boring institutions 

serving the public interest.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Brian and Martin for these comments&#8230;Martin, I am not sure that there would be public support for </p>
<p>government to be given the power&#8230;..I have worked in Africa, and there I struggle to persuade people that central banks should not be independent </p>
<p>of government, but instead should be accountable to elected governments&#8230;&#8230;governments are deeply mistrusted&#8230;..and while you are right, the </p>
<p>bankers have been making a profit, that&#8217;s because we have allowed them to&#8230;.Regulate them; break them up; and persuade the BoE to once again </p>
<p>adopt the principles and practice of Keynes&#8217; liquidity preference theory &#8211; which he used to help the BoE issue a range of bonds and thereby </p>
<p>determine all rates of interest &#8211; for short and long loans, safe and risky loans&#8230;Banks will then once again become staid, boring institutions </p>
<p>serving the public interest&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/08/bailed-out-banks-should-fund-the-green-new-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why invite the banks to make any profit at all from creating new money? Aren&#039;t you tired of the way 

that the banks continue to laugh at us since we privatised the creation of new money? The banks reap the interest as their own private profit and 

for what? It&#039;s time to nationalise the money system (the power of money creation) so that we, the people, profit. 
Another huge advantage of 

bypassing the idiot banks is that we (the people, via the state) create the money as money, not as credit (money plus debt). Hey presto - we need 

more money, not more debt.
Let&#039;s legislate so that retail banks only take deposits (of existing money) and offer loans against those deposits. 

Now we can issue money (debt free) into the economy, via a Green New Deal and a Citizen&#039;s income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why invite the banks to make any profit at all from creating new money? Aren&#8217;t you tired of the way </p>
<p>that the banks continue to laugh at us since we privatised the creation of new money? The banks reap the interest as their own private profit and </p>
<p>for what? It&#8217;s time to nationalise the money system (the power of money creation) so that we, the people, profit.<br />
Another huge advantage of </p>
<p>bypassing the idiot banks is that we (the people, via the state) create the money as money, not as credit (money plus debt). Hey presto &#8211; we need </p>
<p>more money, not more debt.<br />
Let&#8217;s legislate so that retail banks only take deposits (of existing money) and offer loans against those deposits. </p>
<p>Now we can issue money (debt free) into the economy, via a Green New Deal and a Citizen&#8217;s income.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian P. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.debtonation.org/2009/08/bailed-out-banks-should-fund-the-green-new-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian P. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go for it, Ann. 

What a wonderful idea. We have saved the banks (though I still don&#039;t realy know why we should prop up their 

iniquitous way of working!) and now it&#039;s time for them to say &quot;Thank you&quot;. This would make a nice change from them continuing to take the Mickey 

by paying themselves immoral bonuses under the pretext they need to offer them to get the right people. WWHAT RIGHT PEOPLE??? They haven&#039;t done 

very well so far, have they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go for it, Ann. </p>
<p>What a wonderful idea. We have saved the banks (though I still don&#8217;t realy know why we should prop up their </p>
<p>iniquitous way of working!) and now it&#8217;s time for them to say &#8220;Thank you&#8221;. This would make a nice change from them continuing to take the Mickey </p>
<p>by paying themselves immoral bonuses under the pretext they need to offer them to get the right people. WWHAT RIGHT PEOPLE??? They haven&#8217;t done </p>
<p>very well so far, have they?</p>
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