The World Service invited myself and Jim O’Neill, chief economist at Goldman Sachs on to the Business Daily programme today for what they hoped would be an intellectual punch-up. They were not disappointed. Prof. Jagdish Bhagwati had also been invited, but sadly was stuck in a traffic jam so unable to join us in the discussion, and instead was recorded separately…

O’Neill started by positively mocking the ‘peak oil thesis’. Ho, Ho, Ho… never heard anything so crazy he said… He had just read a book by a Californian – with no geological or economic background – calling for transition economies, and had never read such rubbish! “Don’t tell me you believe that peak oil nonsense!” I explained that I had grown up in a gold mining town, whose inhabitants and owners believed that gold would pay their wages and dividends for ever… Not so, mining there dried up in the mid 1990s and iIt turned out that reserves of gold, like oil, are finite. Today, my home town, Welkom in the Orange Free State, is a ghost town. When I asked him why Saudi oil production numbers seemed stuck, and would not budge even under intense pressure from the US, he looked incredulous.

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